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|Name = {{i|NatCon}} National Conservatism {{i|NatCon armchair}} | |Name = {{i|NatCon}} National Conservatism {{i|NatCon armchair}} | ||
|NativeName = {{ILSize|Latin-icon.png|Latin Language}}: National Conservatismus | |NativeName = {{ILSize|Latin-icon.png|Latin Language}}: National Conservatismus | ||
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|image = National Conservatism.png | |image = National Conservatism.png | ||
|Caption = FOR TRADITION AND STANISTAN! | |Caption = FOR TRADITION AND STANISTAN! | ||
|Alias = {{SB}}{{i|NatCon}} NatCon<br>Right-Wing Nationalism<br>Right-Nationalism<br>Right-Wing Patriotism<br>Patriotic Conservatism<br>Classical National Conservatism<br>{{i|NatCon armchair}} True Nationalism (by himself)<br>{{Alias|Marxism-icon.png|Marxism|Bourgeois Nationalism}} | |Alias = {{SB}}{{i|NatCon}} NatCon<br>Right-Wing Nationalism<br>Right-Nationalism<br>Right-Wing Patriotism<br>{{i|Patriotism}} [[Patriotism|Patriotic]] [[Conservatism]] {{i|Conservatism}}<br>Classical National Conservatism<br>Blue Stanistanism<br>{{i|NatCon armchair}} True Nationalism (by himself)<br>{{Alias|Marxism-icon.png|Marxism|Bourgeois Nationalism}} | ||
|Alignments = {{Info/Con}}<br>{{Info/CultRight}}<br>{{Info/Nation}} | |Alignments = {{Info/Con}}<br>{{Info/CultRight}}<br>{{Info/Nation}} | ||
|Place of Origin = | |Place of Origin = | ||
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|Variations = | |Variations = | ||
*<b>Schools of Thought:</b> <div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"> | *<b>Schools of Thought:</b> <div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"> | ||
**{{i|Center-Right Nationalism}} [[Center-Right Nationalism]] | |||
**{{i|NatNeocon}} [[National Neoconservatism]] | **{{i|NatNeocon}} [[National Neoconservatism]] | ||
**{{i|PatNatCon}} [[Paternalistic National Conservatism]] | |||
**{{i|UltraCon}} [[Ultranational Conservatism]] | |||
</div> | |||
*<b>Regional Tendencies:</b> <div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"> | |||
**{{i|Alliance of National Forces}} [[Alliance of National Forces]] | |||
</div> | </div> | ||
*<b>Personal Tendencies:</b> <div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"> | *<b>Personal Tendencies:</b> <div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"> | ||
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**{{i|Bismarck}} [[Bismarckism|Otto von Bismarck]] (1815-1898) | **{{i|Bismarck}} [[Bismarckism|Otto von Bismarck]] (1815-1898) | ||
**{{i|Hindenburg}} [[Hindenburgism|Paul von Hindenburg]] (1847-1934) | **{{i|Hindenburg}} [[Hindenburgism|Paul von Hindenburg]] (1847-1934) | ||
**{{I|Wilhelminism}} [[Wilhelminism|Wilhelm II]] (1859-1941) | |||
**{{i|Metaxism}} [[Metaxism|Ioannis Metaxas]] (1871-1941) | **{{i|Metaxism}} [[Metaxism|Ioannis Metaxas]] (1871-1941) | ||
**{{i|Papenism}} [[ | **{{i|Churchill}} [[Churchillism|Winston Churchill]] (1874-1965) | ||
**{{i|Papenism}} [[Pauperism|Franz von Papen]] (1879-1969) | |||
**{{I|Schmittianism}} [[Schmittianism|Carl Schmitt]] (1888-1985) | **{{I|Schmittianism}} [[Schmittianism|Carl Schmitt]] (1888-1985) | ||
**{{i|Salazarism}} [[Salazarism|António de Oliveira Salazar]] (1889-1970) | **{{i|Salazarism}} [[Salazarism|António de Oliveira Salazar]] (1889-1970) | ||
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**{{i|Salazarism}} [[Salazarism|Marcelo Caetano]] (1906-1980) | **{{i|Salazarism}} [[Salazarism|Marcelo Caetano]] (1906-1980) | ||
**{{i|Renaud Camus}} [[Renaud Camusism|Renaud Camus]] (1946-, <s>self-proclaimed</s>) | **{{i|Renaud Camus}} [[Renaud Camusism|Renaud Camus]] (1946-, <s>self-proclaimed</s>) | ||
**{{i|Islamophobia}} [[Islamophobia|Gerard Batten]] (1954-) | |||
**{{i|Zemmour}} [[Zemmourism|Éric Zemmour]] (1958-) | **{{i|Zemmour}} [[Zemmourism|Éric Zemmour]] (1958-) | ||
**{{i|Melonism}} [[Melonism|Giorgia Meloni]] (1977-) | **{{i|Melonism}} [[Melonism|Giorgia Meloni]] (1977-) | ||
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**{{i|NatLib}} [[National Liberalism|Pehr Evind Svinhufvud]] (1861–1944) | **{{i|NatLib}} [[National Liberalism|Pehr Evind Svinhufvud]] (1861–1944) | ||
**{{I|Mannerheimism}} [[Mannerheimism|Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim]] (1867-1951) | **{{I|Mannerheimism}} [[Mannerheimism|Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim]] (1867-1951) | ||
**{{i|Islamophobia}} [[Islamophobia|Dan Eriksson]] (1956-) | |||
</div> | </div> | ||
*{{i|Slav}} '''Eastern Europe/Post-Soviet States''' <div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"> | *{{i|Slav}} '''Eastern Europe/Post-Soviet States''' <div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"> | ||
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**{{i|Hu Hanmin}} [[Hu Hanmin Thought|Hu Hanmin]] (1879-1936) | **{{i|Hu Hanmin}} [[Hu Hanmin Thought|Hu Hanmin]] (1879-1936) | ||
**{{I|ChenYi}} [[Chen Yi Thought|Chen Yi]] (1883-1950) | **{{I|ChenYi}} [[Chen Yi Thought|Chen Yi]] (1883-1950) | ||
**{{i|LDP}} [[Liberal Democratic Party|Ichirō Hatoyama]] (1883-1959) | |||
**{{i|Chiang}} [[Chiangism|Chiang Kai-shek]] (1887-1975) | **{{i|Chiang}} [[Chiangism|Chiang Kai-shek]] (1887-1975) | ||
**{{i|AuthCap}} [[Authoritarian Capitalism|Manuel Roxas]] (1892-1948) | **{{i|AuthCap}} [[Authoritarian Capitalism|Manuel Roxas]] (1892-1948) | ||
**{{i|Norodom Sihanouk}} [[Sihanoukism|Norodom Sihanouk]] (1922-2012) | **{{i|Norodom Sihanouk}} [[Sihanoukism|Norodom Sihanouk]] (1922-2012) | ||
**{{i|Lee Kuan Yew}} [[Lee Kuan Yew Thought|Lee Kuan Yew]] (1923-2015) | **{{i|Lee Kuan Yew}} [[Lee Kuan Yew Thought|Lee Kuan Yew]] (1923-2015) | ||
**{{i|Mahathir}} [[Mahathirism|Mahathir Mohamad]] (1925-) | |||
**{{i|IllibDem}} [[Illiberal Democracy|Thein Sein]] (1944-) | **{{i|IllibDem}} [[Illiberal Democracy|Thein Sein]] (1944-) | ||
**{{i|Modi}} [[Modism|Narendra Modi]] (1950-) | **{{i|Modi}} [[Modism|Narendra Modi]] (1950-) | ||
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**{{i|Trump}} [[Trumpism|Donald Trump]] (1946-) | **{{i|Trump}} [[Trumpism|Donald Trump]] (1946-) | ||
**{{i|Rpop}} [[Right-Wing Populism|Rush Limbaugh]] (1951-2021) | **{{i|Rpop}} [[Right-Wing Populism|Rush Limbaugh]] (1951-2021) | ||
**{{i|Bolsonarism}} [[Bolsonarism|Jair Bolsonaro]] (1955-) | |||
**{{i|Rpop}} [[Right-Wing Populism|Michelle Malkin]] (1970-) | **{{i|Rpop}} [[Right-Wing Populism|Michelle Malkin]] (1970-) | ||
**{{i|Musk}} [[Muskism|Elon Musk]] (1971-) | **{{i|Musk}} [[Muskism|Elon Musk]] (1971-) | ||
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**{{i|KoItaly}} [[Kingdom of Italy]] (1861-1946) | **{{i|KoItaly}} [[Kingdom of Italy]] (1861-1946) | ||
**{{i|German Empire}} [[German Empire]] (1871-1918) | **{{i|German Empire}} [[German Empire]] (1871-1918) | ||
**{{i|Poland2}} [[Second Polish Republic]] (1918-1939) | |||
**{{i|WhiteMove}} [[White Movement]] (1920s-1940s) | **{{i|WhiteMove}} [[White Movement]] (1920s-1940s) | ||
**{{i|ROC}} [[Republic of China]] (1920s-1980s) | **{{i|ROC}} [[Republic of China]] (1920s-1980s) | ||
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== History == | == History == | ||
The seeds of National Conservatism go back to traditional {{i|Conservatism}} [[conservatism]] (think {{i|Burke}} [[Burkean Conservatism|Edmund Burke]]) plus 19th-century {{i|Nationalism}} [[nationalism]] (especially in {{i|Europe}} [[Europe]]). | The seeds of National Conservatism go back to traditional {{i|Conservatism}} [[conservatism]] (think {{i|Burke}} [[Burkean Conservatism|Edmund Burke]]) plus 19th-century {{i|Nationalism}} [[nationalism]] (especially in {{i|Europe}} [[Europe]]). However, many people in ancient times had views and/or values that would be considered "National Conservative" if held up to modern standards. | ||
In the 20th century, many conservative movements in Europe and the {{i|USA}} [[United States of America|US]] began blending national identity, {{i|SocCon}} [[Social Conservatism|social conservatism]], and economic pragmatism. In America, NatCon existed in pieces among certain post-WWII conservatives, but wasn't named yet. | In the 20th century, many conservative movements in Europe and the {{i|USA}} [[United States of America|US]] began blending national identity, {{i|SocCon}} [[Social Conservatism|social conservatism]], and economic pragmatism. In America, NatCon existed in pieces among certain post-WWII conservatives, but wasn't named yet. | ||
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*{{i|FisCon}} [[Fiscal Conservatism]] - We must get rid of useless spending, external debt and reduce taxation for my fellow people… | *{{i|FisCon}} [[Fiscal Conservatism]] - We must get rid of useless spending, external debt and reduce taxation for my fellow people… | ||
*{{i|Protect}} [[Protectionism]] - …also we must ensure that our products and enterprises are not destroyed by foreign rivals and {{i|Globalism}} [[Globalism|globalization]]. | *{{i|Protect}} [[Protectionism]] - …also we must ensure that our products and enterprises are not destroyed by foreign rivals and {{i|Globalism}} [[Globalism|globalization]]. | ||
*{{i|Corporatism}} [[Corporatism]] - Be more nationalist and you're perfect. | *{{i|Corporatism}} [[Corporatism]] - Be more {{i|Nationalism}} [[Nationalism|nationalist]] and you're perfect. | ||
*{{i|DeGaulle}} [[Gaullism]] - Greatest French | *{{i|DeGaulle}} [[Gaullism]] - Greatest {{i|France}} [[France|French]] patriot! | ||
*{{i|Francoism}} [[Francoism]] - Franco Friday! | *{{i|Francoism}} [[Francoism]] - Franco Friday! | ||
*{{i|Endecja}} [[Endecja|National Democracy]] - My friend in {{i|Poland}} [[Poland]]. | |||
=== Minorities === | === Minorities === | ||
*{{i|IslamTheo}} [[Islamic Theocracy]] - My western variants think | *{{i|AuthCon}} [[Authoritarian Conservatism]] - You care too much about the {{i|Auth}} [[Authoritarianism|state]] instead of the {{i|Nationalism}} [[Nationalism|nation]] itself. And don't forget that some of you, like {{i|Lukashenko}} [[Lukashenkoism|Lukashenko]] or {{i|Yanukovych}} [[Yanukovychism|Yanukovych]] were opposed to nationalism. | ||
*{{i|LeftNat}} [[Left-Wing Nationalism]] - I love how you value the importance of the {{i|Nationalism}} [[Nationalism|nation]], but why | *{{i|IslamTheo}} [[Islamic Theocracy]] - My western variants think you're ruining western civilization. But {{i|IslamNat}} [[Islamic Nationalism|this guy]] is cool though. | ||
*{{i|LeftNat}} [[Left-Wing Nationalism]] - I love how you value the importance of the {{i|Nationalism}} [[Nationalism|nation]], but why choose {{i|Socialism}} [[socialism]]? | |||
*{{i|ProgCon}} [[Progressive Conservatism]] - I don't get it. Seriously, what are you?! | |||
*{{i|NeoCon}} [[Neoconservatism]] - Liberating countries under control of {{i|Commie}} [[Communism]] and {{i|Jihadism}} [[Jihadism|Islamism]] is good, but why all the {{i|Globalism}} [[Globalism|globalist]] stuff? | *{{i|NeoCon}} [[Neoconservatism]] - Liberating countries under control of {{i|Commie}} [[Communism]] and {{i|Jihadism}} [[Jihadism|Islamism]] is good, but why all the {{i|Globalism}} [[Globalism|globalist]] stuff? | ||
*{{i|Putin}} [[Putinism]] - Maybe in theory the idea of invading {{i|Ukraine}} [[Ukraine]] wasn't so bad but it became a whole disaster for both {{i|Russia}} [[Russia]] and the West, also you being a {{i|Klep}} [[Kleptocracy|corrupt jerk]] and {{i|Multiculturalism}} [[Multiculturalism|multicultural]] {{i|Imp}} [[Imperialism|imperialist]] aren't much good. | *{{i|Putin}} [[Putinism]] - Maybe in theory the idea of invading {{i|Ukraine}} [[Ukraine]] wasn't so bad but it became a whole disaster for both {{i|Russia}} [[Russia]] and the West, also you being a {{i|Klep}} [[Kleptocracy|corrupt jerk]] and {{i|Multiculturalism}} [[Multiculturalism|multicultural]] {{i|Imp}} [[Imperialism|imperialist]] aren't much good. | ||
*{{i|Pinochet}} [[Pinochetism]] - {{i|Neolib}} [[Neoliberalism|Neolib]] globe trotter. <s>Death flights were based though.</s> | |||
=== Illegals === | === Illegals === | ||
*{{i|Globalism}} [[Globalism]] - I hate everything about you so much. | *{{i|Globalism}} [[Globalism]] - I hate everything about you so much. | ||
*{{i|Prog}} [[Progressivism]] - Cultural Marxist degenerate! | *{{i|Prog}} [[Progressivism]] - Cultural Marxist degenerate! | ||
*{{i|Socialism}} [[Socialism]] - Communism, socialism… call it what you like, there's very little difference in the two. | |||
*{{i|Lpop}} [[Left-Wing Populism]] - An ideology that is supposed to rally all the poor instead rallies all the spoiled rich | *{{i|Lpop}} [[Left-Wing Populism]] - An ideology that is supposed to rally all the poor instead rallies all the spoiled rich | ||
*{{i|Marxism}} [[Marxism]] - Stop calling me Boor-Joo-Ah, you culture destroyer! | *{{i|Marxism}} [[Marxism]] - Stop calling me Boor-Joo-Ah, you culture destroyer! | ||
*{{i|RevProg}} [[Revolutionary Progressivism]] - My worst nightmare… | *{{i|RevProg}} [[Revolutionary Progressivism]] - My worst nightmare… | ||
*{{i|Maoism}} [[Maoism]] - Same as the above! HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT AND DESTROY {{i|ChineFolk}} [[Chinese Folk Religion|TRADITIONAL CHINESE CULTURE]] ALONG WITH THE TEACHINGS OF {{i|Hu Hanmin}} [[Hu Hanmin Thought|HU HANMIN]]! | *{{i|Maoism}} [[Maoism]] - Same as the above! HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT AND DESTROY {{i|ChineFolk}} [[Chinese Folk Religion|TRADITIONAL CHINESE CULTURE]] ALONG WITH THE TEACHINGS OF {{i|Hu Hanmin}} [[Hu Hanmin Thought|HU HANMIN]]! | ||
*{{i|Nazi}} [[Nazism]] - Radical psycho because of who I am now discredited in {{i|Germany}} [[Germany]]. | *{{i|Nazi}} [[Nazism]] - Radical psycho because of who I am now discredited in {{i|Germany}} [[Germany]]. | ||
*{{i|MarxFem}} [[Marxist Feminism]] - A commie that wants to destroy the traditional family. Need to say more? | *{{i|MarxFem}} [[Marxist Feminism]] - A commie that wants to destroy the traditional family. Need to say more? | ||
*{{i|StateLib}} [[State Liberalism]] - What in the even… | *{{i|StateLib}} [[State Liberalism]] - What in the even… | ||
*{{i|Trotskyism}} [[Trotskyism]] - You're a {{i|Globalism}} [[Globalism|globalist]] AND a {{i|Commie}} [[Communism|commie]]? Pick a struggle! | *{{i|Trotskyism}} [[Trotskyism]] - You're a {{i|Globalism}} [[Globalism|globalist]] AND a {{i|Commie}} [[Communism|commie]]? Pick a struggle! | ||
Latest revision as of 23:27, 28 July 2025
“”The nation demands a movement which has written upon its banner the internal and external national freedom that it will act as if it were the spiritual, social and political conscience of the nation.
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National Conservatism (NatCon) is a statist,
culturally right-wing, civically and economically variable, but usually
Authoritarian Right, and
nationalist ideology who intends to preserve traditions, national and cultural identity as well as emphasizing the protection of national interests, mixing elements of
conservatism with nationalism. He has a strict sense of
law and order, is generally nationalistic, favors immigration regulation, and values both nation and family.
It's important to not confuse NatCon and
AuthCon. Despite both ideologies holding the same stances on social and cultural issues, NatCon is concerned about the
nation, while AuthCon is more about
state power, with the latter sometimes being anti-nationalist.
History
The seeds of National Conservatism go back to traditional
conservatism (think
Edmund Burke) plus 19th-century
nationalism (especially in
Europe). However, many people in ancient times had views and/or values that would be considered "National Conservative" if held up to modern standards.
In the 20th century, many conservative movements in Europe and the
US began blending national identity,
social conservatism, and economic pragmatism. In America, NatCon existed in pieces among certain post-WWII conservatives, but wasn't named yet.
The national conservatives found success in
Armenia through their party
Republican Party of Armenia. This party ruled the country from 1999 all the way until 2018.
The formal movement called "National Conservatism" began taking shape in 2019, with the launch of the first National Conservatism Conference organized by the
Edmund Burke Foundation.
Relationships
One Familiy
Nationalism - Love you, dad!
Right-Wing Populism - Comrade in arms who's found some recent success spreading my ideology across the world.
Paleoconservatism - My
American brother.
National Liberalism - We're almost an ideological match, except he's a
liberal. Stop saying I'm hijacking you.
Conservative Liberalism - Another
liberal that isn't a degen and has good values.
Reactionary Liberalism - Best lib, almost all are gigachads!
Reactionaryism -
Papen was also very based
Conservatism - Yeah I get that a lot of the time you're also quite nationalist, but you don't place as much emphasis on it as I do.
Alt-Lite - My grandson who popularized me amongst the youth, but stop spending so much time on the internet.
Trumpism - Right guy, right ideology.
Christian Democracy - Church buddy!
Christian Theocracy - Fanatical church buddy!
Religious Nationalism - Religion AND Nationalism? Sign me up!
Fiscal Conservatism - We must get rid of useless spending, external debt and reduce taxation for my fellow people…
Protectionism - …also we must ensure that our products and enterprises are not destroyed by foreign rivals and
globalization.
Corporatism - Be more
nationalist and you're perfect.
Gaullism - Greatest
French patriot!
Francoism - Franco Friday!
National Democracy - My friend in
Poland.
Minorities
Authoritarian Conservatism - You care too much about the
state instead of the
nation itself. And don't forget that some of you, like
Lukashenko or
Yanukovych were opposed to nationalism.
Islamic Theocracy - My western variants think you're ruining western civilization. But
this guy is cool though.
Left-Wing Nationalism - I love how you value the importance of the
nation, but why choose
socialism?
Progressive Conservatism - I don't get it. Seriously, what are you?!
Neoconservatism - Liberating countries under control of
Communism and
Islamism is good, but why all the
globalist stuff?
Putinism - Maybe in theory the idea of invading
Ukraine wasn't so bad but it became a whole disaster for both
Russia and the West, also you being a
corrupt jerk and
multicultural
imperialist aren't much good.
Pinochetism -
Neolib globe trotter. Death flights were based though.
Illegals
Globalism - I hate everything about you so much.
Progressivism - Cultural Marxist degenerate!
Socialism - Communism, socialism… call it what you like, there's very little difference in the two.
Left-Wing Populism - An ideology that is supposed to rally all the poor instead rallies all the spoiled rich
Marxism - Stop calling me Boor-Joo-Ah, you culture destroyer!
Revolutionary Progressivism - My worst nightmare…
Maoism - Same as the above! HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT AND DESTROY
TRADITIONAL CHINESE CULTURE ALONG WITH THE TEACHINGS OF
HU HANMIN!
Nazism - Radical psycho because of who I am now discredited in
Germany.
Marxist Feminism - A commie that wants to destroy the traditional family. Need to say more?
State Liberalism - What in the even…
Trotskyism - You're a
globalist AND a
commie? Pick a struggle!
Quotes
| “ | Yes to the natural family, no to the |
” | |
| “ | The kind of society that |
” | |
How to draw

National Conservatism has a drawing rating of easy.
- Draw a ball.
- Fill it with blue.
- Draw a black waving flag in the middle.
- Add eyes and done.
| Color Name | HEX | |
|---|---|---|
| Blue | #0183BE | |
| Black | #141414 | |
